Reredos, Formerly Let Us Attend
Why This Isn't an Apologetics Site Anymore,
With an Apology to Brother Dimond,
and A Reading List for Apologist Wannabes

Joseph Suaiden
It's really kind of chilly this morning.  It's cold.  And I can say what today isn't because it's cold: It isn't a day to be responding to retreaded arguments against Roman Catholics.  Actually, the weather is never right for retreaded arguments against Roman Catholics.  And today really wasn't my day for other reasons.  

After wasting two hours yesterday because someone had pestered me for over a month to write a response to one set of Roman Catholic apologists, I finally found enough time in my schedule to answer a simple letter enunciating some RC arguments.  Frankly, I didn't want to because I had changed the name of my site, and advised my querent to read a couple of useful books and answer it himself, if he wanted to be helpful.  No good.  He wanted ME to write it.  Well, frankly, I have a million things going on in my personal life, and I didn't WANT to respond to it because I had other things to do.  But finally, I wasted a couple of good hours of my free time to do so.

I then called this monastery and introduced myself because people on the Internet rarely realize they are dealing with HUMANS, with LIVES.  That doesn't just go for me, it goes for people who write stuff like this of any religion.  While it was somewhat confrontational-- it's how I do things-- I believe it was friendly and then call waiting happened (see? we have lives and everything-- on his part the man was working on a religious video but took time out to chat for a minute).  I gave him the address and left it at that.

My dear fianceé questioned the value of this response of mine, visiting after she came back from work, asked me why I was writing it, and I explained it was to help a confused person who pestered me-- and that I had spoken to Brother Dimond so it might be useful to him too.  I didn't convince her, but I sure convinced me, and went to bed.  So my eyes bulged this morning when I opened my email to find that my "desperate individual" had taken a month's worth of irritation versus the desire to answer in Christian truth-- and forwarded it to James Likoudis.  (I am not going to print Likoudis' response-- I would hate to embarrass him-- but frankly, I am a little annoyed that this old man still has a following.  I guess it sells better if you are an RC apologist and a "real live former ethnically Orthodox".  Anyway....)  Likoudis' response was so laughable -- to be fair, he did point out a textual error-- 1300's = 14th century, I knew that really, thanks--  that I am still dumbfounded as to WHAT to say.

And then it dawned on me for a second: Why did my "desperate person" send it to Likoudis a DAY after I wrote it?

I am a little irritated to say the least, and I really hope this wasn't some cheap RC goad, since we are way too close to the end to waste our time with such dumb games (Unless, it seems, you are James Likoudis, whom I assume is retired.) But I am STILL going to assume that this person who wrote me, against all evidence, wrote me with totally pure intentions.  So I am going to solve HIS-- and any future wanna-bes who want to become Orthodox apologists, or RC apologist-kids (real apologists of most denominations, in general, have a low threshold of patience with this sort of stupidity) who want a good fight, with a reading list.

If someone has a question that is not based SPECIFICALLY on something that I have already answered or referred to another place, they can refer to the reading list.  If someone wants to respond to something I wrote, they can refer to to the list first. If I send you to the reading list, guess what? I am not going to write you an answer! Why? Because this isn't an apologetics site anymore!  I have other things to do.  I am not going to sit here and argue with well-heeled organizations, large, bloated organizations like James Likoudis.  I simply have other things to do.
 
And with this, I'd like to apologize to Brother Dimond.  He never contacted me, nor did he try to convert me.  I certainly did not mean to bother him in his work.  I am sure anyone's gut reaction on that RC side, it's sort of an automatic one, is to want to respond.  Don't bother.  Just accept my apology.  I hope he considers Orthodoxy, but after this introduction, who would want to?  If the person who sent me that letter was Orthodox, were you thinking about the man's soul? Mine? Even, maybe, your own?



READING LIST For Apologist Wannabes:

Most of these books ARE available ONLINE.  The ones that AREN'T are fairly low cost.  If I refer you to any of these books (including a Patristic text). No, I am not going to include links.  Just read.

YOU MUST START HERE.
The Papacy, Abbe Guettee (Fr Vladimir).  If you don't start here but want to argue anyway, prepare to waste your time.  Reading this text takes some humility and some time.  However, you must be able to see the Papacy in a different context than how it is "normally seen" by Roman Catholics.  Without it, forget it.  You will be arguing with walls.

Orthodox Apologetic Theology, Ivan M. Andreyev.

Anything by the Church Fathers as COMPLETE TEXTS.

Two Paths, Michael Whelton.

Franks, Romans, Feudalism and Doctrine,  Fr John Romanides.

The History of the Council of Florence, Oustromoff.

Catholic Orthodoxy and Anglo-Catholcism, Dr Joseph Overbeck.

The Orthodox Veneration of the Mother of God, St John Maximovitch.

The Soul After Death and Genesis, Creation and Early Man, Fr Seraphim Rose.

Sola Scriptura: In the Vanity of Their Minds, Fr John Whiteford.

The Jordanville Prayer Book